zerowing 發(fā)表于 2013-7-6 15:48
說實話，相比評價，我更想知道J15究竟是個什么水平。
| ls ? 8 hrs ago what worries me is that these people won against us without guns back in the 50s...some of them had pistols...they would pick up guns from the fallen soldiers on the ground and keep attacking. That's what I call brave. 讓我真正擔(dān)心的是這些將會成為我們敵人的中國人50年代（朝鮮戰(zhàn)爭）的時候連像樣的武器都沒有，他們只有幾把小米加步槍。他們在戰(zhàn)場上前赴后繼，毫不畏死，接過倒下戰(zhàn)友的槍就向上沖。這就是我說的勇敢。 Kenneth Lee ? 8 hrs ago Ls, they didn't exactly win against us. Open up a history book. 樓上，他們并沒有打敗我們（朝鮮戰(zhàn)爭），好好去學(xué)習(xí)一下歷史吧。& T$ Y1 e E* k0 m( Q ) m1 h1 d0 s0 [0 Y% Q; L, U0 Q sarfraz ? 8 hrs ago copy maker 山寨王。7 ]! l9 h) \$ \9 a! W" z8 z/ x Seapath ? 8 hrs ago 1 @4 K$ e- f( P0 ]8 v/ M% s4 o Vinni As we are allies of Japan and the Philippines is a US protectorate. I seriously doubt that China would attack them. It would mean we would come to their defense and that would be a war which China does not want." I9 k/ t% N2 h' g 要知道日本是我們的盟友，而菲律賓是我們的馬仔。我真心不信中國會攻擊他們。如果中國膽敢攻擊，那么美軍就會出動，那么中國就會同美國開戰(zhàn)，這是中國不愿見到的2 c5 d8 M' [. N% y5 | CapSpaulding ? 8 hrs ago Loki - Here's what could go wrong: The Chinese will keep getting better and better at modern warfare.....and all that that implies. Do you think we could take on China??? We can't even finish off the Arabs......% K7 C- t5 Z; U, H 你有沒有搞錯哦？中國過去在戰(zhàn)場上都不弱，現(xiàn)在只會越來越強。所有的證據(jù)都證明了這一點。你真的認為我們打得贏中國嗎？看看我們在中東的表現(xiàn)吧，連那些阿拉伯人都搞不定】2 g: a: O$ o9 U6 x1 ~& d d 1 z* C7 A8 t0 ]5 J* j' T, a9 B : Y' f: p" X0 f7 ` ' j7 h O/ X, K/ j9 Y& f Bill ? 8 hrs ago & W [4 a* }! S+ E6 N6 ~$ [1 X0 i. Z Ls That wasn't brave, if they didn't do it they would be executed. Besides that was in Korea, a very limited war. We didn't lose we just didn't want to make a parking lot out of N Korea and China. |- ~* n) V* m# Y" y: Y5 T& ?* I j 那不叫勇敢好不好，那些中國如果不向上沖，他們會被槍斃。我不認為朝鮮戰(zhàn)爭說明什么問題，那是一場非常有限的戰(zhàn)爭。我們并沒有輸，只不過我們最終不想在北朝鮮和中國搞什么停車場而已。8 X! J6 m! ^6 C H& h* P2 i% U ! V. E( C1 v- H8 M $ i2 h4 l2 q3 O% P3 ~! { Joey V ? 8 hrs ago Vinnie,any country invading another will have to be willing to take losses themselves.The US didnt have the stomach to sustain anymore losses in vietnam n they withdrew..China invaded vietnam and after sustaining massiive losses,they also withdrew.I bet you if that carrier was sunk by a lucky shot from antiquated weapons of the opponents,it will cause a gigantic loss of face for china...1 modern kamikaze will be devastating.% W* Q7 T7 f. C4 ~: g 任何國家一旦對別國發(fā)動進攻，就一定預(yù)先估計了自身的損失而且也愿意承擔(dān)。美國在越戰(zhàn)撤退就是因為無法承擔(dān)更多的損失。中國也入侵了越南，但他們損失慘重，最終也撤退了。我敢打賭，如果中國的航母被哪個對手擊沉了，那么中國一定會被激怒。那么一場世界大戰(zhàn)甚至核戰(zhàn)就在所難免了。 3 E$ ~! C0 j7 r8 P' g 8 A: Y& c6 T' M: \2 K$ W Shaw ? 7 hrs ago * b+ G9 P: ]1 D+ C3 w4 T6 F SeaPath, the Chinese are becoming a force not to be reconed with. At this time we may be able to still beat them, however that won't last long. We are a dying empire, like pre-WWI England. The only reason they can't beat us at this time is due in no small part to the military spending from Republican leadership. But we are in insurmountable debt and our fate is sealed and another nail is added to the coffin everytime they pass a new Quantitative Easing bill or raise the debt sealing to infinite levels. Well, I'm going to go see the new Red Dawn movie and get ready for the coming war between the U.S. and China. No one wants it but it yet seems unavoidable." o6 w2 R0 H7 ]2 a" [% P 中國正在成為一個超級強大的力量，這是無法阻擋的。我們現(xiàn)在也許還有能力打敗他們，但這種日子沒有幾天了。我們是一個垂死的帝國，就像二戰(zhàn)前的日不落帝國。現(xiàn)在之所以他們還不能打敗我們是因為共和黨的領(lǐng)導(dǎo)下軍隊還能得到最低程度的經(jīng)費保證。但我們很快就要破產(chǎn)了，我們的命運已經(jīng)決定了，每一個新法案的通過，每一次增稅的決定，都是一顆顆釘在我們棺材上的釘子。我準(zhǔn)備去看看新一版的赤色黎明，先做好同中國決戰(zhàn)的準(zhǔn)備。盡管大家都不愿看到，但這是不可避免的。 & Q" j& [- {5 l9 Q+ n! _* o Bud ? 7 hrs ago It's always a good idea to never underestimate a potential enemy. The Chinese may make junk, but they make a lot of it. 我也認為永遠不要小瞧和低估我們的對手。中國人的確可能制造垃圾，但他們制造了很多的垃圾。 % w1 L, q# C- m / r h; b- D3 n; n5 o Beyer ? 5 hrs ago ! r! l+ s3 M7 K* G! R. y Huh! No, we want to rule the world, and we think that others think like us. Case in point: China does not plan to set up military bases in other countries and does not get oil and gas through wars (they pay for them actually)." A2 C4 r" @' Y2 c2 _ 我們總想統(tǒng)治世界，總是一廂情愿認為別人都跟我們想的一樣。比如：中國絕不會在海外發(fā)展軍事基地，他們不需要通過軍事手段來獲得石油和天然氣（他們付錢買） 2 I! Z0 d2 R) @9 D- o1 m+ e- f JE ? 5 hrs ago 3 ~8 f/ o) j7 J# B& o! q% G7 @ No carrier is safe if they launch or shoot a missile running about 50 feet off of the water. I don't believe there is any truly capable weapons system we possess weapon that we [possess that can shoot one down as soon as it pops up over the horizon. 沒有哪個航母能夠經(jīng)得起一顆飛行高度在50英尺以下導(dǎo)彈的攻擊。我不認為有任何防御系統(tǒng)能夠防得住飛行高度如此低的導(dǎo)彈。 2 f! e8 a% k/ O; d N, [ War Dog 666 - U ? 4 hrs ago You are correct, no ship on the high seas is safe from sea skimming missiles - they're virtually impossible to defend against, just imagine six or more ship killing missiles headed toward you - YOU'RE FINISHED!+ m8 S4 K: |7 T' `% u: V 樓上說的對，沒有什么艦艇能夠防得住從水面上飛過去的導(dǎo)彈。這是無法防御的。想想有六枚或者更多的導(dǎo)彈向你飛過去的場景吧，你就等死吧。 & L' l7 {% J- j( K$ K2 W pilotrod ? 4 hrs ago They should name it, thanks US labor unions, for making us totally noncompetitive in the world market place. I bet you will soon be able to buy a twinkie made in China, can't wait to see how the unions take care of the 18000 jobless hostess employees. 我覺得中國的航母應(yīng)該取名為“感謝美國工會”號，要不是美國工會，他們才不可能在世界市場上那么有競爭力呢。我打賭很快你就能在市場上買到中國制造的奶油蛋糕了，然后看看咱們的工會是如何對待那些失業(yè)的18000名蛋糕店服務(wù)員吧。 . q2 ]6 x u, f" a p Not the average fool ? 4 hrs ago Pilotrod your right. When I read Craftsman tools are now Chinese made, that killed all hope for me!0 ^6 |% b1 U3 g4 J) }0 b1 s: L& q2 t6 l 你們都說的很對啊。當(dāng)我看到就連我們的五金工具（鉗子，扳手）都是中國制造的時候，那一刻我真是徹底絕望了3 J/ d& ]) O. l+ E$ C4 j : a) Y: G) p" X& n) L matt t ? 3 hrs ago $ f. m- q2 |7 C4 K I- F- V heyhombre the bakers union at hostess makes "0" the union and there greed put them out of a job. all those lazy union people deserve what they got.just too bad they took down another company with them.time to wake up people 那些狗屁的工會都是白癡，只會讓人們不斷地失業(yè)。那些加入工會的人罪有應(yīng)得。他們只會讓一個又一個公司破產(chǎn)。是時候清醒了啊人們！' F7 B1 O4 h X$ D% s7 S/ w , v; C! X. l; l% f$ I ) ^6 X/ {8 {; N/ v jeff g ? 3 hrs ago % `) n3 @ ]2 U- N4 G3 f, U is it a cold war for them to have one carrier? and why do we act like its such a big deal when we spend hundreds of billions more than them?$ X4 ]$ F; u( C$ r 現(xiàn)在還是冷戰(zhàn)時刻嗎？不就是一艘航母嗎？我們花費數(shù)以萬億比他們多得多的錢在軍事上，為什么沒人指責(zé)呢？* x9 ?+ |4 O7 S( O. e; x ) H- P# s1 M* m# N/ U2 Q" y3 F% ?6 b ; G3 n: r. R: W9 X. K2 q5 R ls ? 8 hrs ago well, considering that they didn't even have guns for their soldiers a few decades ago, this is amazing. BTW, they still won against us without guns.5 X+ ?& |" V1 k" L" f 你說的對，不過想想幾十年前他們的士兵甚至沒有像樣的槍，這就有意思了。順便說一下，他們即使沒有槍也能打敗我們 : c0 ` q: R; P" v& ]; Z' H Detritus of Sloth ? 8 hrs ago ) u/ O1 M. ?7 X it shows all the liitle countries on the pacific rim they can bring a war to their front yard if they don't get what they want. Yes it's a big deal. 這件事說明如果不給他們足夠的支援，那么太平洋那些小國隨時會遭受入侵。我覺得軍售的好時機到了。 * F7 u! R3 M- J ( B' t c r( }6 x8 M3 q" ?5 U Jakobzbombz ? 8 hrs ago * {7 B ^( |) I8 I3 f; z# H I agree Edwin. One Carrier and one jet? I wish my job was that easy when I was active duty. Show of force is more like 3 Carrier battle groups parked off your coast. 我同意樓上所說的。僅僅是一艘航母和一架飛機而已。我倒希望我們真的就這么輕松簡單就好了。真正的秀肌肉那是至少要停泊三艘航母在你家門口，那才是呢。 Bubba ? 7 hrs ago We can continue to blame the president for China's enhanced military powers, but I know of this company named Apple and they provide lots of money to China.Apple is just one of the many thousand of providers to China. Many of you support China. Please don't act as if you don't know what I am talking about. The more you purchase from China the more they have to enhance thier military./ _( }1 z* _# _9 g! N+ t- w9 l 我們不斷地指責(zé)總統(tǒng)，指責(zé)他給了中國太多的機會來增強他們的軍事實力。可是我們知不知道有一家叫做蘋果的公司，這個公司給了中國無數(shù)的金錢。而蘋果只是無數(shù)的中國支助者的一個。他們?nèi)慷贾С种袊Ｄ銈儎e假裝不知道我在說什么。你購買中國制造越多，你就越增強了他們的軍事實力。% f- w7 g* ^* P" K% L! r 1 S h% {0 M/ I0 `# a# t0 k Alex Wilson ? 7 hrs ago yahoooooozr, you need to get back on your meds. current Chinese military budget: $100 billion. current US military budget (2012): $700+ billion! yeah, we should be shaking in our boots right now......okay, NOT!+ X& H9 V& f. l# {+ W$ v. d 你們這幫白癡，你們清醒一點好嗎？中國今年的軍費開支只有一千億美元。而美國今年是七千億以上。看到這個數(shù)據(jù)，你們從頭涼到腳吧。, z9 J5 s2 M" e3 J ( U _9 c, E/ G: L7 Y' l JOHN R ? 7 hrs ago The us military is to expensive to be enlarged. the corruption alone could take 40 per cent of the budget .too many chief and very expensive Indians o 美國的軍隊太費錢了，很難有發(fā)展的空間。腐敗起碼吞噬了40%的預(yù)算。軍隊里充斥了太多官老爺，還有非常貴的印第安人。9 G9 @6 d, e5 L # {6 s# K( O3 r' r# W: L Steven ? 7 hrs ago * {; |8 |) W7 H @fannish--it is not the retailers bankrolling these wars, it is the big banks, and they bankroll bothsides, it is big business, they like wars. 普通的百姓并不喜歡戰(zhàn)爭。挑起戰(zhàn)爭的是銀行，他們資助戰(zhàn)爭雙方，這是筆很大的買賣，他們喜歡打仗。 5 i9 K7 `3 P: R5 k3 U ; M# b0 v- ~# G peter ? 7 hrs ago 5 q' D# c& J' r9 i& v# n9 [9 R! J- U Yes, but it wasn't an F-18. Don't worry though, at least not for the near-term. China's economy will come crashing down with the dollarand the Euro. Their 4 trillion plus in Dollarand Euro reserves will buy nothing, their export machine will fail, and the economy will collapse. It will take them decades to recover from what the US and Europe is about to do to them.2 a& {$ W- U/ S+ ^( Y 好吧，就是那架飛機不是F-18。但也不要擔(dān)心，至少近期不用擔(dān)心。中國的經(jīng)濟正在崩潰，RMB撐了不幾天了。他們的四萬億債務(wù)買不到任何東西，他們的出口將會崩潰，整個經(jīng)濟也會崩潰。他們將需要數(shù)十年的時間來恢復(fù)美國和歐洲給他們造成的傷痛。 1 \; ]9 P1 f1 t6 J! j h4 I, F& a& ]9 z, Q7 h1 n5 a0 h art ? 7 hrs ago anyway china can fly without an airplane..just see a movie from chinese karate..lol..0 p2 b9 M2 D* f& M3 l 不管如何，中國人不需要飛機也能飛。看看那些描寫中國功夫的電影吧。5 o; Y. M2 u- ]3 s# [: B5 _; p $ Y! R5 t: k8 F8 J3 G6 k' q' T0 H0 f Jake ? 7 hrs ago $ v; s) F8 j. U And America made TVs back in the 1940s, way before China. Now America doesn't make TVs anymore because China does it way better. 美國1940年發(fā)明生產(chǎn)了電視，那時中國在干什么？可現(xiàn)在呢，美國造不出一臺電視，因為中國造的更好) ^9 i! E5 a X' A 6 }7 C' b) c; y Dave ? 6 hrs ago I think the comments are funny in our attempt of disproving their aircraft. instead of applauding them for their effort to complete a piece of machinery, we're too self-centered to care Instead we bash on other countries by saying we're better. holy #$%$, we're being left in technology dust and we just others when they're better than us, dont we?5 Q; O+ h+ w% [# T 我覺得這些評論簡直可笑之極，我們只會一味貶低指責(zé)他們，而不是祝賀他們?nèi)〉玫木薮蟪删汀Ｎ覀兲砸詾槭橇耍徽J為自己最好，別人都不行，固步自封。天啦，殊不知我們早已落后了，現(xiàn)在是別人更好，而不是我們，明白嗎？ - t* D2 j3 d5 e/ @4 {- o# t+ j # Z' r7 P+ j: t% A# X( E& a, w4 s# I* c Jocko ? 6 hrs ago Dave are you suggesting that the Chinese are better at invention, military hardware, or otherwise generally better? Human rights maybe. Individual freedom. Fewer genocides? I suggest you spend a few weeks in Chinba. We look forward to your report.7 R% Z9 I N$ T* e% p) Q1 S: u( n9 ? 樓上，你是不是在說中國在發(fā)明創(chuàng)造，軍事硬件和別的方面都超過了美國？我覺得人權(quán)方面也許他們更好吧，還有自由和種族滅絕方面。我建議你去一趟中國，在那兒帶上幾周。我們期待你的旅行見聞。 ( X( p: U- [% I. A 0 \% {+ C# G" m% N5 `" V5 m |
zerowing 發(fā)表于 2013-7-6 15:48
說實話，相比評價，我更想知道J15究竟是個什么水平。
zerowing 發(fā)表于 2013-7-6 15:48
說實話，相比評價，我更想知道J15究竟是個什么水平。
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