洋務運動和山寨工業

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以前的國內近代史，有一塊是“洋務運動”。洋務運動是中國工業的最早階段，通過洋務運動，中國有了工業，不過大清還是完了。

改革開放后，假冒偽劣工業逐步發展，最新的叫法是山寨工業。山寨工業不是國內的全部，但對中國發展成為世界第二大經濟體的貢獻，感覺有相當大的比例。

有個說法是，山寨讓中國得到了很大的利益，但中國只得到了饅頭，怎么做饅頭還是不知道。如果別人不做饅頭了，中國還是會餓死。

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老鷹

有利有弊。不同階段利弊不同。利在短期，弊在長期。

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老鷹 發表于 2015-10-29 13:48
有利有弊。不同階段利弊不同。利在短期，弊在長期。

教材對洋務運動的評價是，沒有學習西方先進的政治制度，光學習技術是不行的。
聯想到山寨工業，整個經營一是偷，二是瞎干，能搞好工業嗎？

花弄影

張之洞為了調和清廷統治階級頑固派和改良派之間的矛盾，系統地總結了自己的洋務實踐，把前輩的思想歸納為“中學為體，西學為用”這樣一個口號。對照日本的明治維新，就能知道為何最后清王朝滅了，而日本卻強大了。意識形態不改，只學工業技術，行不通的。
對照現在，難道真的比洋務運動高明多少？思想保守有過之而無不及。

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可別拿制造業侮辱饅頭，饅頭可是諸葛亮做的，人家可是中國有史以來的大發明家，如果木牛流馬能傳到今天，連大頭愛因，可能都啥也不是

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山寨是學習的開始，每個階段都要涌現一批為民族工業發展進步的實干家。
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